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Topic Started: Oct 13 2008, 12:46 AM (1,103 Views)
Memento Mori	Oct 13 2008, 12:46 AM Post #1
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=197057 If such a ban passed, it wouldn't affect GSF in the slightest, because we don't use SWF's rules (and no one plays at the level they're talking about anyway). It's still an interesting discussion. For the record, I'd be in favor of the ban. The number of MKs at the one tournament I went to (which was just a local one) was kinda sickening. And if you look at the tournament stats, the number of MKs winning tournaments... Melee was nothing like this. "Fox only, Final Destination" was and always will be just a belief held by scrubs who know nothing about competitive Melee. MK's overcentralization, though, is entirely real.



Memento Mori	Oct 13 2008, 02:50 AM Post #2
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	LOL.



Silver Dragoon	Oct 13 2008, 07:55 AM Post #3
King Deist Posts: 1,930 Group: Referee Member #23 Joined: February 11, 2008 Friend Code 0989-1411-2845 Wii Code 2016-2510-7004-0713	Yeah, I'm honestly glad that everyone here doesn't use Meta Knight all the time; it'd be quite boring, and as you said, we don't play quite at the level where it matters anyways. I think a ban would be good to have at certain tourneys, but I don't want to see Meta Knight banned at all of them (maybe a tourney specifically for MK or something).



dabuz	Oct 13 2008, 10:53 AM Post #4
Rainbow Cookie Pikmin Master Posts: 880 Group: Brawler Member #93 Joined: May 16, 2008	no, metaknight should never be banned because my olimar eats them



Silver Dragoon	Oct 13 2008, 11:36 AM Post #5
King Deist Posts: 1,930 Group: Referee Member #23 Joined: February 11, 2008 Friend Code 0989-1411-2845 Wii Code 2016-2510-7004-0713	Nonono, dabuz, Olimar eats Pikpik carrots. Kirby eats Meta Knight.



Memento Mori	Oct 13 2008, 01:31 PM Post #6
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	Also, seven eight nine. ...>_>



Yaypenguins	Oct 13 2008, 09:28 PM Post #7
Advanced Member Posts: 609 Group: Brawler Member #35 Joined: March 30, 2008 Friend Code 1246-8443-2324	You've gotta be kidding me. MK's not that cheap. Yes he's insanely fast and easy to use, but he's still beatable. And I'm hurt they used Mario as their first example of a bad matchup. I do fine against MKs with Mario.



Memento Mori	Oct 13 2008, 09:37 PM Post #8
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	Quote: Keep in mind this is just my own words and opinions, AND THIS IS ONLY ABOUT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF THE METAGAME. I don't care if you can beat your buddy's MK with Captain Falcon. That isn't what this is about.



47drift	Oct 13 2008, 09:48 PM Post #9
Yo that's so pringles, where yo curleh moustache at. Posts: 529 Group: Brawler Member #34 Joined: March 25, 2008 Friend Code 4468-0636-6399 Wii Code 6471-7205-2212-9316	That's ridiculous. Meta Knight is just another character. If one fails to find any way to beat a good Meta Knight player, I see no reason to simply ban the character. With that being said, I rarely play as Meta Knight. I just find this rule completely uncouth.



Memento Mori	Oct 14 2008, 01:49 PM Post #10
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	This, too, is interesting. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199260 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elRvelIMdAw



47drift	Oct 15 2008, 09:14 PM Post #11
Yo that's so pringles, where yo curleh moustache at. Posts: 529 Group: Brawler Member #34 Joined: March 25, 2008 Friend Code 4468-0636-6399 Wii Code 6471-7205-2212-9316	That's just silly. And also, I don't understand why someone not being able to beat a good Meta Knight player is equal to Meta Knight being a broken, cheap character. Grow up, people. If you can't beat something, it doesn't mean it's broken.



Memento Mori	Oct 15 2008, 11:28 PM Post #12
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	The problem isn't that MK can't be beaten. The problem is that the only way to beat MK is to use MK yourself. This leads to tournaments being MK-fests, which are boring and stale. The ban isn't being considered as a means of making things "easier" for the best players in the world (<_<); it's being considered as a means of improving Brawl's metagame on the whole. Metagame > Meta Knight.



47drift	Oct 16 2008, 09:35 PM Post #13
Yo that's so pringles, where yo curleh moustache at. Posts: 529 Group: Brawler Member #34 Joined: March 25, 2008 Friend Code 4468-0636-6399 Wii Code 6471-7205-2212-9316	What a joke. Meta Knight is beatable. Screw competitive Smashers. They kill the fun that is gaming. Disgrace to gamers, if you ask me.



Memento Mori	Oct 16 2008, 11:17 PM Post #14
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	47drift Oct 16 2008, 09:35 PM What a joke. Meta Knight is beatable. Screw competitive Smashers. They kill the fun that is gaming. Disgrace to gamers, if you ask me. If that's your attitude, then why do you care about this at all? >_> It affects you in absolutely no way. And how in the world do they "kill the fun of gaming" when you don't have anything to do with them? No one is strapping you to a chair and forcing you to play "no items, 3-4 stock, fair stages." If you don't like tournaments with those rules, then host your own. When you enter tournaments that someone else has taken the time to create, you play by the host's rules. And I already said that MK being unbeatable isn't the issue. Edit: The thread I linked also says that beating MK isn't the problem. It's the cost of beating MK that's the problem. Edited by Memento Mori, Oct 17 2008, 12:46 AM.



47drift	Oct 17 2008, 04:08 AM Post #15
Yo that's so pringles, where yo curleh moustache at. Posts: 529 Group: Brawler Member #34 Joined: March 25, 2008 Friend Code 4468-0636-6399 Wii Code 6471-7205-2212-9316	I care because I care about general gaming communities and how simple things like that can tear a site into two arguing sides. With that said, people take it too seriously. That is what ruins the fun of gaming. But bah, there's no sense talking this much about it. I'd rather play several other games than Smash Bros. right now anyway. Street Fighter IV is on the way after all. Gotta prepare. Train. Get intense.



Memento Mori	Oct 17 2008, 09:02 AM Post #16
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	47drift Oct 17 2008, 04:08 AM With that said, people take it too seriously. That is what ruins the fun of gaming. But bah, there's no sense talking this much about it. I'd rather play several other games than Smash Bros. right now anyway. Street Fighter IV is on the way after all. Gotta prepare. Train. Get intense. I hope you said these things with a sense of humor. If not, the hypocrisy is astounding. With that said, this ban is considered as a means to make the competitive aspect more fun, believe it or not. It's like I said before: unless the ban is put into place, competitive Brawl will almost certainly degenerate into "MK only, no items, fair stages." Contrary to casual elitists' beliefs, the Melee version of that statement is not true. No one wants this version to become true.



47drift	Oct 18 2008, 04:31 PM Post #17
Yo that's so pringles, where yo curleh moustache at. Posts: 529 Group: Brawler Member #34 Joined: March 25, 2008 Friend Code 4468-0636-6399 Wii Code 6471-7205-2212-9316	Yes, I jest. Usually.



Silver Dragoon	Oct 18 2008, 05:56 PM Post #18
King Deist Posts: 1,930 Group: Referee Member #23 Joined: February 11, 2008 Friend Code 0989-1411-2845 Wii Code 2016-2510-7004-0713	Well, too bad for Meta Knight, since Luigi Knight is even more broken than him



47drift	Oct 20 2008, 04:23 AM Post #19
Yo that's so pringles, where yo curleh moustache at. Posts: 529 Group: Brawler Member #34 Joined: March 25, 2008 Friend Code 4468-0636-6399 Wii Code 6471-7205-2212-9316	After several weeks of observing Meta Knight discussion at various sites, I've officially come to a verdict. I give up on Brawl's competitive communities. I hate to agree with such a clich�, but that video's main message was right. Tourney 'tards don't deserve Brawl.



Memento Mori	Oct 20 2008, 07:13 AM Post #20
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	I love it when people take offense to the way others play a game.



47drift	Oct 20 2008, 10:17 PM Post #21
Yo that's so pringles, where yo curleh moustache at. Posts: 529 Group: Brawler Member #34 Joined: March 25, 2008 Friend Code 4468-0636-6399 Wii Code 6471-7205-2212-9316	If you look at it from an opposing standpoint's perspective, I can accurately say: Exactly.



Memento Mori	Oct 21 2008, 01:46 AM Post #22
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	Except I don't care how you play. >_>



47drift	Oct 21 2008, 10:32 PM Post #23
Yo that's so pringles, where yo curleh moustache at. Posts: 529 Group: Brawler Member #34 Joined: March 25, 2008 Friend Code 4468-0636-6399 Wii Code 6471-7205-2212-9316	Talkin' about the rest of everyone in the competitive Brawl world. Not necessarily this site.



Sock	Oct 22 2008, 11:07 PM Post #24
In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed. Posts: 276 Group: Brawler Member #22 Joined: February 10, 2008 Friend Code 1891-1038-3212	47drift Oct 21 2008, 10:32 PM Talkin' about the rest of everyone in the competitive Brawl world. Not necessarily this site. I'm pretty sure most competitive Brawl players don't shove their way of playing down our throats. I've never seen them do it, at least.



Memento Mori	Oct 23 2008, 01:12 AM Post #25
Founder Posts: 3,014 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796 Wii Code 2445-2692-1285-0965 Blog Captain's Log: http://forums.globalsmashfederation.com/blog/main/62672/ (Updated March 14)	The ones that do are jerks and should be paid no more attention than you would any other troll.


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