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Who's missing?; who would you like to see in the next ..
Topic Started: Jun 2 2008, 04:28 PM (382 Views)
dabuz	Jun 21 2008, 09:22 AM Post #26
Rainbow Cookie Pikmin Master Posts: 814 Group: Brawler Member #93 Joined: May 16, 2008	Berserker Swordsman Jun 21 2008, 09:14 AM Silver Dragoon Jun 20 2008, 08:17 PM Berserker Swordsman Jun 4 2008, 10:05 AM resists urge to shoot down this post with a wall of text of why Kratos is the second worst character in the game >_> SECOND Worst... who's the worst, then? ... seeing K. Rool in SMS (Sluggers, not Sunshine) makes me really upset at how an awesome character could've been left out of Brawl. Worst is Genis. As much as I love him, I do admit he is the worst character in the game. He's probably the only character in any game that I can accept being the worst. Although, IMO, both Genis/Sheena deserve the worst spot. It just so happens that Sheena's spell cancel is somewhat decent. then you don't understand how to use them, my sheena eqauls win and so does genis, zelos is worst



Berserker Swordsman	Jun 21 2008, 09:35 AM Post #27
AMAZINGJOBSQUIRTLE Posts: 1,919 Group: Forum Leader Member #9 Joined: December 5, 2007 Friend Code 4983 4600 7715	If you want to continue this, I'd suggest the Video Games forum. Though, as the last offtopic statement I'll make in this topic, I'll tell you now that it has been proven time and time again that Sheena and Genis are very low down on the list. Kratos being second-worst was something I had debated on the ToS for a while. >_> It never really changed much, but it did bring him down a couple of notches.



dabuz	Jun 21 2008, 09:38 AM Post #28
Rainbow Cookie Pikmin Master Posts: 814 Group: Brawler Member #93 Joined: May 16, 2008	Berserker Swordsman Jun 21 2008, 09:35 AM If you want to continue this, I'd suggest the Video Games forum. Though, as the last offtopic statement I'll make in this topic, I'll tell you now that it has been proven time and time again that Sheena and Genis are very low down on the list. Kratos being second-worst was something I had debated on the ToS for a while. >_> It never really changed much, but it did bring him down a couple of notches. bring it!



Silver Dragoon	Jun 22 2008, 07:05 AM Post #29
King Deist Posts: 1,651 Group: Referee Member #23 Joined: February 11, 2008 Friend Code 0989-1411-2845 Wii Code 2016-2510-7004-0713	Out of curiosity, if Genis, Kratos, and Sheena are the worst, then who's the best?



dabuz	Jun 22 2008, 09:31 AM Post #30
Rainbow Cookie Pikmin Master Posts: 814 Group: Brawler Member #93 Joined: May 16, 2008	Silver Dragoon Jun 22 2008, 07:05 AM Out of curiosity, if Genis, Kratos, and Sheena are the worst, then who's the best? character order from best to worst: loyd, sheena, regal, genis, raine, presea, colette, kratos, zelos



Berserker Swordsman	Jun 22 2008, 10:21 AM Post #31
AMAZINGJOBSQUIRTLE Posts: 1,919 Group: Forum Leader Member #9 Joined: December 5, 2007 Friend Code 4983 4600 7715	Here's what I think: Zelos Colette Lloyd Raine Presea Regal Sheena Kratos Genis Here's what the consensus was on the ToS board before I left: Colette Zelos/Kratos (this was a compromise, because while they do have a variety of differences, trying to nitpick through them was difficult) Raine Lloyd Regal Presea Sheena Genis Don't know if that has changed around since then, but the only difference I would see happening is with the Zelos/Kratos standing.



dabuz	Jun 22 2008, 12:31 PM Post #32
Rainbow Cookie Pikmin Master Posts: 814 Group: Brawler Member #93 Joined: May 16, 2008	Berserker Swordsman Jun 22 2008, 10:21 AM Here's what I think: Zelos Colette Lloyd Raine Presea Regal Sheena Kratos Genis Here's what the consensus was on the ToS board before I left: Colette Zelos/Kratos (this was a compromise, because while they do have a variety of differences, trying to nitpick through them was difficult) Raine Lloyd Regal Presea Sheena Genis Don't know if that has changed around since then, but the only difference I would see happening is with the Zelos/Kratos standing. you have your opinion, i have mine



Berserker Swordsman	Jun 22 2008, 01:19 PM Post #33
AMAZINGJOBSQUIRTLE Posts: 1,919 Group: Forum Leader Member #9 Joined: December 5, 2007 Friend Code 4983 4600 7715	dabuz Jun 22 2008, 12:31 PM Berserker Swordsman Jun 22 2008, 10:21 AM Here's what I think: Zelos Colette Lloyd Raine Presea Regal Sheena Kratos Genis Here's what the consensus was on the ToS board before I left: Colette Zelos/Kratos (this was a compromise, because while they do have a variety of differences, trying to nitpick through them was difficult) Raine Lloyd Regal Presea Sheena Genis Don't know if that has changed around since then, but the only difference I would see happening is with the Zelos/Kratos standing. you have your opinion, i have mine Well, duh. Which is why I pointed out my opinion and then the facts.



vandreand	Sep 9 2008, 07:47 AM Post #34
Meteor smasher Posts: 162 Group: Brawler Member #116 Joined: May 27, 2008 Friend Code 3952-7998-3182	Travis from no more heroes. Laharl from disgaea ds. Geno from super mario rpg. Bomberman from bomberman. Majoras mask link from the legend of zelda majoras mask (he would transform in goron, deku and zora). And more.......



Memento Mori	Sep 9 2008, 11:10 AM Post #35
Founder Posts: 2,598 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796	...So... BS, you can believe in tiers in ToS, but not in Brawl? head explodes



Berserker Swordsman	Sep 9 2008, 03:14 PM Post #36
AMAZINGJOBSQUIRTLE Posts: 1,919 Group: Forum Leader Member #9 Joined: December 5, 2007 Friend Code 4983 4600 7715	Where does it say that? Me posting what other people said is their "tier list" is totally different from me saying "I say Zelos is better than Kratos." When I said I accept Genis being the lowest, I'm not admitting that tiers exist either. I'm admitting that everyone in ToS is better than Genis. It just so happens that these supposed tiers say the same.



Memento Mori	Sep 9 2008, 03:45 PM Post #37
Founder Posts: 2,598 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796	All you've done is prove that you don't know what tiers are.



Berserker Swordsman	Sep 9 2008, 03:52 PM Post #38
AMAZINGJOBSQUIRTLE Posts: 1,919 Group: Forum Leader Member #9 Joined: December 5, 2007 Friend Code 4983 4600 7715	And I won't care because they're just stupid excuses for people to argue for no good reason. I play my video games to have fun, thank you.



Memento Mori	Sep 9 2008, 04:00 PM Post #39
Founder Posts: 2,598 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796	Some -- actually, I'd say most -- people find winning fun. Tier lists help people win. In case you didn't get it: fun is subjective, so get off your high horse.



Yaypenguins	Sep 9 2008, 09:30 PM Post #40
Advanced Member Posts: 587 Group: Brawler Member #35 Joined: March 30, 2008 Friend Code 1246-8443-2324	Memento Mori Sep 9 2008, 04:00 PM Some -- actually, I'd say most -- people find winning fun. Tier lists help people win. In case you didn't get it: fun is subjective, so get off your high horse. Actually, I don't find tiers helpful at all. All they do is tell me that characters I can't use well (Fox) are better than the ones I can use well (Mario). At least, that's what they were for me in Melee. Anyway, on topic, I'd like to add Ryu from Ninja Gaiden to my list of characters I'd like to see. And if I havn't mentioned him already, I'd like to see Megaman. Maybe the Black Knight too.



Memento Mori	Sep 9 2008, 10:48 PM Post #41
Founder Posts: 2,598 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796	I'm talking about in tournaments, when money is at stake and people want every advantage possible. If you aren't entering tournaments, then no, tier lists won't help you, and you shouldn't even care about them.



Yaypenguins	Sep 11 2008, 08:35 PM Post #42
Advanced Member Posts: 587 Group: Brawler Member #35 Joined: March 30, 2008 Friend Code 1246-8443-2324	Again, tiers don't really help. Mario, who as far as I know has been considered Middle Tier since the beginning of the series is my best character and I used him in a tournament at AE. All sorts of other characters were there, from Olimar to Metaknight. Pretty much everyone was used except for the apes, D3, the Zelda characters, and the Mario characters (minus my Mario). It was a free-for-all tournament and I ended up winning it. Not by hiding either. I like to charge into the fray.



Ezekiel	Sep 11 2008, 10:46 PM Post #43
Founder Posts: 998 Group: League Master Member #2 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 5026 4766 6737 Wii Code 3150 9554 2494 8182	It's true. If you're not good with a high-tier character and you are good with a mid-tier character, you've got better odds with the mid-tier character even in tournaments. If you are good with a high-tier character, it's an advantage, but you'd hopefully be using that character anyway instead of the low-tier character you're not good with. Except Ike. Trying to use a lower-tier character against Ike is like throwing rocks at a tank.



Memento Mori	Sep 12 2008, 04:37 AM Post #44
Founder Posts: 2,598 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: November 23, 2007 Friend Code 4639-8629-6796	Yeah, skill is always more important than tiers. Always. Using a higher-tiered character is just an extra advantage.



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